PCE Push Polling

After reading the SL Trib’s report on the PCE’s push polling today, I was all afire to write up a quick piece on the moral bankruptcy of the organization and the ideology which spawned it.

But then I saw that others in the Utah blogosphere had already adequately covered the topic. Now that the most recent events which have been chapping my hide are out of the way, I can get back to work on the social justice series.

From 3rd Ave:

That is not a “opinion poll,” Julia Lyon, it is a push poll. They are smearing the other side assuming that Utah’s homophobia will overwhelm its desire for good public schools.

Jeremy’s Jeremiad:

Voucher proponents have already begun digging into their bag of dirty tricks and its only August. Pathetic? Yes. Surprising? No.

It will be interesting to see how low the pro-voucher movement will go in pushing this lost cause on Utah’s voters. I’m betting they’ll go much lower than this latest push poll as the election gets closer.

And for the most shrewd observation, The World According to Me:

…PCE is calling people to “ask” them if their minds would be changed on the voucher issue if they knew that the same orginization opposing vouchers favored same-sex marriage.

Which, to begin with, is false.

It’s also a practice known as “push polling,” where the results of the poll aren’t important, it’s the impression you leave in people’s minds&hellips;

…This is unfair and dirty. And, if PCE has to resort to dirty tricks to win, what does that say of the validity of their position? [emphasis added]

‘Nuff said.

5 Responses to “PCE Push Polling”

  1. jared Says:

    man i thought idaho’s school system was F.U.B.A.R’d. and the school politics were dirty here.
    my question is what do school vochures and same sex marriage have to do with each other it seems to me that the issue should be whether vochures are good for the state and education but linking opponents of vochures to proponents of same sex marriage that’s a little extreme.

  2. sheri Says:

    yes jared, of course that is the issue, but i think because polling has shown that most utahns don’t favor vouchers, the pro-voucher folks realize they need to do something else. they weren’t able to strong-arm vouchers using mark shurtleff’s office, and now that it really is up to a public vote, they are resorting to dirty tactics to scare utahns into voting for the vouchers. if you can get enough people (people who unfortunately don’t seem to have the time or resources to research the issue for themselves) to assume that if they vote against vouchers they are somehow endorsing same sex marriage (and by extension, threatening their temple recommends), i think a lot of people will change their votes. it’s a dirty trick, but unfortunately it’s one that many people won’t recognize. i think those of use who are talking about it in the blogosphere represent a minority of people who take the time to research issues/candidates during elections. With this poll, PCE has now managed to instill a dubious connection in the minds of many people. “Well, gosh, I don’t support gay marriage…i guess i should vote FOR vouchers.” i think it’s a very morally and ethically nasty thing to do…but in a state like this where the majority religion has spoken out so consistently about the “evils” of gay people, it’s a tactic that will probably work.

  3. Jared Says:

    wow, if the sheeple buy into this i guess they’re not informed or blind to reason.

  4. Derek Staffanson Says:

    Yes, Jared, I think that very much describes conservatives.

  5. Jason Bourne Says:

    We have a failing public school system which continues to suck down more and more money while delivering less in terms of well educated graduates.

    We continue to fall behind the rest of the world in both the quality of our educational output and the quantity.

    Tanya Clay House of the ultra-liberal People for the American Way recently declared, “We’ve never seen a shred of credible evidence that shows school vouchers actually help students learn. While all public schools must demonstrate success under No Child Left Behind, private schools are not held to the same level of accountability for their performance.”

    But lets ask the question another way, speaking of those same shreds of evidence, we’ve not seen many that point to those now in charge of that public school system having the ability to turn that around. In fact, there seems to be more evidence than not that they’re incapable of doing so.

    So the question becomes how competition could be any worse than monopoly? How could allowing the consumer of the education product to choose that which they find to best fill their own childrens needs be any worse than the arbitrary standards and needs of the monopoly?

    From the side of the political spectrum which claims to be for “choice” this should be an issue for which they are fighting for the choice vouchers bring, not against.

    Jason Bourne

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